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pdadio

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PostSubject: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptyTue May 29, 2012 12:21 am

I've got a '70 type 3 squareback that chatters or stutters in 1st gear. The rest of the gears seem to do ok. I've looked around the web and found that it could be the front transmission mount that is loose or broken. I've not been able to see anything like that when I look. Is there an easy way to tell if it is broken without tearing out the engine and transmission?

Thanks for any advice or info
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PostSubject: Re: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptyTue May 29, 2012 10:30 am

Dann recently had this happen so I can tell you there's three things it could be.

1) Broken transmission mount
2) Warped flywheel/bad clutch
3) Broken Bowden tube

The easiest way to rule out the transmission mount is to put a floor jack under the trans and barely lift it (if it's not currently broken, you don't want to break it so don't lift it too far). You'll be able to tell when you watch the mount.

Oh yeah, and welcome to the group!
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PostSubject: Re: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptyTue May 29, 2012 11:45 am

When that happened to me it was the clutch. Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptyTue May 29, 2012 11:50 am

When I replaced the engine a few years ago I replaced the clutch plate also. I did not see any visual warping or damage to the flywheel at the time but who knows, I might have missed something. I've only got 100 or so miles on the engine since it's replacement
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PostSubject: Re: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptyTue May 29, 2012 4:52 pm

cant wait to see this one done

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PostSubject: Re: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptyTue May 29, 2012 7:05 pm

If it's violent, likely a transmission mount. This is a common and known VW issue.
I've had it.
They are rubber and nobody ever suspected they'd have to last 40+ years.
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PostSubject: Re: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptyTue May 29, 2012 8:12 pm

Anyone up for a tech day? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptyTue May 29, 2012 8:54 pm

Welcome to the group! Tech day coming soon cant remember the day. Kim chime in here and remind us of the date for the next tech day. Group meeting this Thursday at Mel's in Roseville. Love to see ya there!
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PostSubject: Re: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptyTue May 29, 2012 9:08 pm

Tech day is this Sat. June 2nd address should be in the Sactown Forum. I'll double check to make sure it is in the current thread when I get back to my computer!
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PostSubject: Re: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptyTue May 29, 2012 9:09 pm

Pdadio tech day June 2nd see the thread in sactown affairs for details.
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PostSubject: Re: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptyTue May 29, 2012 9:10 pm

LOL same time posting!!!
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PostSubject: Re: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptyTue May 29, 2012 11:06 pm

Wow. Great response! See you Thursday at Mel's.
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PostSubject: Re: First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter   First Gear Clutch Chatter/Stutter EmptySun Jun 03, 2012 11:38 am

I had the same problem, bowden tube it was.
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