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Sounds like you lost the clip to the ebrakes.. had that happen once myself. Pull that drum off and I bet you will see you ebrake assembly hanging there.. there is a pin that holds it all together and a c or e clip that holds that.. if the c clip goes a way, then the pin can come out and whammooo..

Never a dull day with these car

Everything was powdered in metal bits from the inside of the drum, but everything else looked fine. But is the castle nut supposed to turn the axle when loosening?. After I backed the adjuster off (by hand), the car moved back a little then forward, then stuck.

Where did the powder come from? Brakes, bearing, bearing holder. Get some brake clean and clean it and take a pic. We love pictures.

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I left the car on the ground with a wedge under the wheel to break the castle nut loose.

Then I jacked the car up and went from there.

Did the same when tightening.

Alrighty, I cleaned it all off. The powder may have come from the the drum being grind on some how.




I cleaned it off, well, I didnt get the pic of it cleaned.



Is the drum supposed to slide far back enough to see the axle interlocked? cause thats not happening.



With the drum off theres obviously no grinding sound, but when I push it back and tighten it down, its VERY obvious its grinding. Nothing appears to be hitting it though

The powder (brake dust) is normal depending on how much is there. What you have pictured there seems pretty normal. Kinda hard to tell from the pic, but that outer lip of the drum looks awfully shiney. Is it maybe grinding on something?

I think that is just a glare Greg.

I agree it look normal, is the other side acting funny? How many rubber brake hoses are on the rear one or two. If you rubber brake hose fails sometimes it will allow fluid one way and not return. Everything look semi new if not new.

I agree Dave. The rubber hoses on my car did the same thing. I replaced all of them.

Okie Dokie folks. I was just schooled and told the drum is supposed to have splines in it, as you can see from my pictures they are entirely smoothed out. Also, that is indeed not a glare. It was completely ground out. That was the "powder" I was referring to. I know the brake dust is in it as well but you cant tell from the pics that theres PLENTY metal shavings. Am I coming off stand off-ish? Im not meaning too, just trying respond to all the questions and responses without quoting everyone.

Wow i have heard that happened once before in a Ghia with a real big motor. What size is you motor I will have to tell my UPS driver you did it in a stock bug.

Sorry

the pic makes it look like the splines are there... so they are gone... that would allow the drum to go into the backing plate... makes sense now.

So a new drum is needed.. are there still splines on the axle? or are they gone also?

They are like $50.00 each unless someone has any lying around.

That is amazing. I can't believe the splines are completely gone.

Thats hard to do.

How tight was the castle nut?

It just seems that something would break before stripping all the splines.

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How tight was the castle nut?[/quote

The motor is a 1600sp. Im guessing it wasnt tight at all(I took it off by hand), Ive always seen it and it had the cotter pin in and figured it was good. All new brakes and springs and cylinders were previously installed, so once again I thought I was good to go. But oh well, I shoulda checked it all out before driving it as I did. The axle is good to go, forged steel vs cast iron and the iron didnt even try.

Were the drums in pretty good shape. The brakes look new, the adjusters and everything else look new if the drums were new they could be more China Crap.

It could of been that the nut allowed the drum to rock back and forth eating away the metal. A tight nut would of made it a single unit.

Sorry it happened.

That must be what happened. Sorry for the bad luck.

That is a real bummer. I am sorry that happened.

I could see it happening in a Ghia. Yaknow the bad ass lines of the body create a super-dimensional magnetic field that quadruples the horsepower of a normal aircooled motor. So in a Ghia it would make sense that the sheer power of such an increadible machine would detstroy metal like it was paper.

I deal with it every day.

But other than that, what a downer.

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That is a real bummer. I am sorry that happened.

I could see it happening in a Ghia. Yaknow the bad ass lines of the body create a super-dimensional magnetic field that quadruples the horsepower of a normal aircooled motor. So in a Ghia it would make sense that the sheer power of such an increadible machine would detstroy metal like it was paper.

I deal with it every day.

But other than that, what a downer.

HAHAAAHAA BEST DAMN POST YET!. But yes, it does suck and Im out to get a replacement tomorrow.

Wrap some duct tape around it and drive it up to tech-day.

I bet we could sneak a replacement off of a certain turbo bug while the owner is otherwise distracted.

Matt, you been hittin' the sauce...LOL... that was pretty good.


That is what happened... that nut is supposed to be torqued down to 250 foot pounds..aka a big effin wrench with a 4 foot pole and all your body weight.

So new drum and then torque that baby down... then cotter pin. Thank God you didn't loose your rear wheel.. I have seen that happen twice.