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type 4 State Route
Posts : 2601 Join date : 2010-08-31 Age : 63 Location : Penn Valley
| Subject: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:00 pm | |
| I know it will fit its just a little taller than the fan shroud. Its a tall setup. Thanks Lets take this project and say start over. It looks like almost everything on my motor is wrong. Alternator gone, oil filter gone, bottom tin gone, fancy electric boost gauge gone. The car 1963 VW Rag top, removable rear apron and it looks like no other option on that. It looks like it will go in altogether, maybe. Motor we are going to basically start from scratch. The deep sump looks like it can stay. Oil filter will have to changed to a remote oil filter and cooler. I may have all the stuff for that? The Alternator looks like it will fry from the heat of the turbo. I have two generators one did work and stopped and I don't remember about the other. I don't see anyway we can run a rear deck lid. It looks like we will have to take off the left deck lid mount. I want a rear deck lid To start mounting the turbo set up you have to be down to almost a bare block. Cylinder tin is alright but not with an alternator stand. So its end cap, plenum, end cap. Changing stand, fan shroud, turbo exhaust, mount turbo. I could use a different fan shroud without heat things on it. (hint) You cannot run heat and they just get in the way. After lunch I am going to tackle buttoning up the exhaust I picked up a set of j tubes Sunday to hack up. I am sorry the lighting in my garage is not to good I will wheel the motor out this weekend and take better pic. Until than this is what I have. This is the plenum the gauge on the end it an electric boost sender. Oh it hits the fan shroud If you look carefully you can see where the oil filter should go, I have two different styles of Honda filter but in the long run running a remote filter and oil cooler is what is needed. And since I am starting to show the begging stages of Alzheimer I had to mark my pulley. No just kidding but sometimes I feel that way. My new Alternator, life expectancy 10 minutes And now for the money shot. So if you have a dog house fan shroud I still have a little money left.
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Smogman72 VW Guru - Moderator
Posts : 1372 Join date : 2010-07-06 Age : 45 Location : Live and Work in GV/Alta Sierra
| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:56 pm | |
| YOULL HAVE TO DO SOME CHECKING BUT IM THINKING THAT THE AIR/FUEL GOING INTO THE TURBO IS NOT RIGHT. IM THINKING THAT THE VACUUM WILL SUCK EXTRA FUEL MAKING IT NOT ADJUSTABLE . ALSO IF THE FUEL MIXES WITH THE OIL LUBRICATING THE BEARINGS IN THE TURBO YOULL BE CHANGING OIL AFTER EVERY TRIP YOU MAKE . JUST MY 2 CENTS . I COULD BE WRONG. LETS HOPE | |
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type 4 State Route
Posts : 2601 Join date : 2010-08-31 Age : 63 Location : Penn Valley
| Subject: well Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:36 pm | |
| The size is correct for the motor. This is a tried and true carburetor for this kind of system. I will give you the low dawn on Turbo systems.
first choice fuel injected with timing manipulation capability. This is number 1 hands down
Carb blow through. Pretty good
Draw through. It will work
So now I have a header exhaust A turbo And all I have to do it take off the Carburetor and replace it with a Air cleaner. Change plenum to Single IDF dual IDF my funky Weber can be modified. What I am tiring to say is changing from a draw through to a blow through is an afternoon.
But all in all it should not to big of a nightmare. This is a play toy I cannot afford the gas to make it a daily driver. With out the turbo just carbs we got around 100 miles to a tank boy it was fun but the fuel filter let us down got a miss and pulled the motor.
Not back to the custom J tubes
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Mateo Admin
Posts : 1919 Join date : 2010-08-22 Age : 55 Location : North Auburn
| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:15 pm | |
| I have a brand new doghouse shroud from BugPack.
I painted it gray and was going to use it when I was having all those issues with my engine tin fitting.
Turns out there was more work to get the coil to mount, clear the Kadron linkage, etc. than just using the stock shroud and triming the front bell housing tin.
I ended up keeping my stock shroud.
You are welcome to it, if interested...
Oh, and it does not have heat, which is what I think you are looking for. | |
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type 4 State Route
Posts : 2601 Join date : 2010-08-31 Age : 63 Location : Penn Valley
| Subject: still gathering parts Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:28 pm | |
| I am still gathering parts for the install. The J tubes are made. In my box of oil cooler, adapters, and what nots I came across a screw on adapter for relocating you oil filter. It put my hoses in a much more desirable location. I worked on oil supply lines. I need to convert to a generator, and steel Don's fan shroud. (He will be a member soon.) And hack off the heater things.
I may need to borrow the down pipe from the Porsche, and the Air/Fuel gauge
So does anyone need anything from Summit. I should have an order ready the first of the week.
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60herbie53 State Route
Posts : 2879 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 63 Location : Higgins Corner
| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:31 pm | |
| Dave, if your getting stuff from summit I could easily stop and get it for you as I go through Reno all the time. It will save you the shipping. | |
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type 4 State Route
Posts : 2601 Join date : 2010-08-31 Age : 63 Location : Penn Valley
| Subject: paint Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:39 pm | |
| Have you tried there paint? We are going to us the Summit brand on the Willys. Its a good price with lots of color options. | |
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60herbie53 State Route
Posts : 2879 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 63 Location : Higgins Corner
| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:59 pm | |
| I have not tried their paint. Is it automotive grade paint or just rattlecan? | |
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type 4 State Route
Posts : 2601 Join date : 2010-08-31 Age : 63 Location : Penn Valley
| Subject: real Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:03 pm | |
| Real deal, single and two stage. I guess we may be the first
David | |
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type 4 State Route
Posts : 2601 Join date : 2010-08-31 Age : 63 Location : Penn Valley
| Subject: news Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:53 pm | |
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60herbie53 State Route
Posts : 2879 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 63 Location : Higgins Corner
| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:19 pm | |
| Cool. You're on your way now. I am anxious to see the results. | |
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type 4 State Route
Posts : 2601 Join date : 2010-08-31 Age : 63 Location : Penn Valley
| Subject: Cliff Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:31 pm | |
| Cliff I was thinking about what you said earlier. I believe it will be pretty hard for the gas to contaminate the oil. The oil pressure will always be greater than the boost pressure. Total boost pressure of say 7 lbs and the oil pressure will be say 40 something or higher. At idle zero boost much lower oil pressure but still pressure. See what I am thinking. Now will it be hard to start I would think so. This is the original way of applying a turbocharger. I am not saying its the best but go to lowbugget this is what he sells. I am just a couple of oil lines away from starting, but miles away from driving. We will all learn from this. Eric has a blow through. I have a injected and now draw through. I looks to me like we have most of the bases covered. Now where did I put that duck tape and bailing wire. | |
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60herbie53 State Route
Posts : 2879 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 63 Location : Higgins Corner
| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:29 pm | |
| You're right about the pressures Dave. I don"t think you'll have any problem there. | |
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| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:53 pm | |
| I had a turbo seal go bad on the Trug. At idle, it was pumping oil into the intake, and under boost, it would pressurize the case through the return line. It kept popping valve cover gaskets, and the dipstick would be partway out after a freeway run. Currently no turbo on the car till I find another one... |
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60herbie53 State Route
Posts : 2879 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 63 Location : Higgins Corner
| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:23 am | |
| Sounds like a lot of boost. | |
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| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:48 am | |
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type 4 State Route
Posts : 2601 Join date : 2010-08-31 Age : 63 Location : Penn Valley
| Subject: it in the car Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:49 pm | |
| The motor is in. Running a deck lid and rear is not a clean option. So time to let it all hang out. Oil cooler options Rear View side another side New rear stance More work to be done. Cross you fingers.. Traction bar and oil stuff and gauges so close. | |
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60herbie53 State Route
Posts : 2879 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 63 Location : Higgins Corner
| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:35 pm | |
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type 4 State Route
Posts : 2601 Join date : 2010-08-31 Age : 63 Location : Penn Valley
| Subject: Got a little more done Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:31 pm | |
| After getting the motor in and it became apparent that I am lacking a vacuum source. No port on the carburetor but I did remember a screw in the 3/4 intake manifold. Garbed a shorty screwdriver and got lucky. Sort of. Nice course threads oh what to do not like it in brass. Hey that look like a 1/4 bolt the one you use a 7/16 wrench on. Sure enough, luck again. Twice in one night. Pic Time The plug The fix, cut the head off after drilling And the vacuum distributor block. Big hose to waste gate and the other to a boost gauge I am done for tonight. I may try a bus throttle cable. C1pi is nice enough to show dimensions. I think I want to do a braided one. Oh getting close Sleep well. | |
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| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:42 am | |
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60herbie53 State Route
Posts : 2879 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 63 Location : Higgins Corner
| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:55 am | |
| Good idea for the vacuum problem. You're on your way. | |
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type 4 State Route
Posts : 2601 Join date : 2010-08-31 Age : 63 Location : Penn Valley
| Subject: going slow Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:57 pm | |
| Slow and steady. Oil feed to Turbo ran Oil return Done Fuel Ran Distributor cap mounted and wires ran away from the heat Coil mounted, I am running out of real estate I may just go with an oil filter What is left oil filter, accelerator cable, Down pipe the one I was going to use is Stainless time for something else, Voltage regulator, Gauges where to mount the gauges. Than drivetrain upgrade. Got to go | |
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60herbie53 State Route
Posts : 2879 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 63 Location : Higgins Corner
| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:22 am | |
| Keep up the good work. It looks as if it is going together nicely. | |
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type 4 State Route
Posts : 2601 Join date : 2010-08-31 Age : 63 Location : Penn Valley
| Subject: Its its Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:37 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Will this Turbo system fit in my bug Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:45 pm | |
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